I’ve admittedly become obsessed with WLC and his seemingly-to-some top-rate debating skills. I love twitter because I follow WLC and he posted a tweet leading to this gem of a YouTube clip.
A Texas A&M student poses this reasonable question to Craig at some event.
If the way to know things is through reason and logic, how do you reconcile claiming something to be true through faith?
Craig’s initial response are these words:
I don’t think that we “know” things through faith…
I’m sorry, Bill, I’ve heard you many times discuss your interaction and direct experience with the Holy Spirit. Your “knowledge” of this interaction is either through faith, or you are hearing audible voices and if that’s the case, you may wish to speak with a mental health professional.
Craig then clumsily transitions the questioners intent on discussing “faith” in the supernatural sense to faith used as a synonym for trust, using empirical evidence. For instance, I have faith the the sun will rise tomorrow because of my limited knowledge of cosmology, gravity, historical records, and the tangible, shared experience that I have with others human beings on this planet that have physically observed the sun “rise” every single day that I’ve been alive. Plus, I can check to see the exact time that the sun will rise and set for the following day and the predictions are always accurate.
Craig uses his research to find the best eye surgeon for corneal transplant surgery, as his example for using the word faith relative to his need to have “faith” in his surgeon’s abilities. But Craig’s choice of surgeon was based on empirical evidence, essentially the surgeon’s track record, perhaps testimonial reports from other patients, etc. His choice of the surgeon was based on the use of reason and logic, not faith. His “leap of faith” was that the qualified surgeon, with a presumably good track record, would not demonstrate his human fallibility and fuck up the procedure. Craig even says, “based on my confidence in his surgical ability, I went under the knife.” He even then makes an accidental joke, that his trust in the doctor wasn’t a “blind trust.” EXACTLY BILL! Your trust was based on logic and reason; assessing empirical data…data that anyone could also have direct access to. He even states the trust was “solidly based on good evidence.” Amazing! Bill, you are sounding like a rational thinker.
Craig, the utter charlatan that he is, then brings the discussion back full circle with this gem of a tie-in.
I think “faith” in the biblical sense is trusting in what you have reason to think is true.
So. I have “reason” to think my eye surgeon will perform a success surgery. And I have “reason” to think that the sun will rise tomorrow. And I have “reason” to think that the Holy Spirit guides my daily life. And I have “reason” to think that Noah brought all those animals onto the ark. All the scenarios use the same words, so they all must be equivalent.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is how we use the inaccurate tool called language to convince people to believe things, or to reinforce beliefs that people may be questioning.
Well done, Bill.
The only thing I can’t figure out is if Bill really believes his bullshit, or if he’s an absolute, intentional fraud. What do you think?